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bellinghman ([personal profile] bellinghman) wrote2008-04-03 11:26 am

Usually it's the other way round

Cyclists often rightly complain that other road users don't always see them. This is a problem - a number of collisions occur when vehicles pull out or cut across in front of them.

But this case is different: Cyclist doesn't see stationary van.

nil nisi bonum and all that, but <cynical>I can only think that, the van being stopped at a pedestrian crossing, the cyclist was too intent on running the red light and knocking over a pedestrian or two ...</cynical>

[identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know about the Republic of Ireland, but in the UK cyclists are perfectly free to use the road if they choose and it is in no sense bad behaviour to do so.

"there also many bad drivers as well" and one of these groups of people kills thousands of people annually and injures tens of thousands in the UK alone. One does not. So why is the former group an afterthought here in your comment, I wonder?

[identity profile] xnamkrad.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 08:05 am (UTC)(link)
Cyclists are obliged to use the cycle path is one is there so it is illegal for them to use the road in those circumstances.

It was not an afterthought, merely a comment that not all dangerous behaviour on the roads is down to cyclists, and yes I agree more people are killed by cars.

[identity profile] damerell.livejournal.com 2008-04-04 01:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Mmm. I'm not surprised that people are unwilling to be shuffled onto what are invariably inferior and more dangerous facilities, of course - just gently appalled when the motoring lobby manages to pass such a self-serving law.

Certainly when the choice here has been between legal and safe I know what I've done - as, until recently, when only filament bulb rear lamps were permissible, never mind the enormously superior reliability of LEDs.