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bellinghman ([personal profile] bellinghman) wrote2007-01-07 05:40 pm

So much for trains

I was just attempting to get train fares for a journey from Sierre (Swiss Alps) to London.

Holy crap! How do they expect anyone to use trains? I can get from Sierre to Paris at a reasonable price - a very reasonable price for a direct TGV that takes 5:20. But that's no use whatsoever, if it then costs THREE TIMES AS MUCH for the Paris to London link, which is only 2:40.

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EDIT: Many thanks for the [livejournal.com profile] purpletigron/[livejournal.com profile] purplecthulhu's advice on getting round Eurostar.

EDIT: OK, I can do Sierre to Paris-Lyon for 113 CHF, if I buy it from the Swiss, and using the halbtax card. That's just under £48. And going via the "I am American" part of the Eurostar site allows me to buy the single/non-flexible fare at $89 each - which is roughly £45. That's compared to the insane £300+ it was trying to do me for originally for the Paris to London leg!

So, Swiss Alps to central London for £93 isn't too bad. I just wish it wasn't such an incredible hassle finding this all out. If I was a PA doing this, and factoring in the cost of my time, it'd be another matter.

EDIT: Ooops, forgot time zone differences. That was 2:40, not 1:40

[identity profile] purplecthulhu.livejournal.com 2007-01-07 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
For more advance booking of short haul travel the comparison is interesting...

Cheapest EasyJet - London (Gatwick) to Edinburgh on 1/3/07 is 18.99 per person including tax (London (Luton) is 21.99, London (Stansted) is 18.99).

GNER London (Kings Cross) to Edinburgh on 1/3/07 is 12.50 per person including tax.

These prices are so similar that I think the real difference will be the cost of getting to/from the station/airport at either end. For most people rail stations are easier and cheaper to get to/from, but your milage will vary.

I think the moral here is that advance booking of both air and rail is much the same price for a similar route.

[identity profile] bellinghman.livejournal.com 2007-01-07 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I think one needs full train-fu to do these!

Having knocked the Sierre-Paris down to under £50, and that's a long TGV ride, it does seem to be doable. I'm just bemused by the Eurostar one.

[identity profile] purplecthulhu.livejournal.com 2007-01-07 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Eurostar is weird because whether you get subsidies depends on whether you're British or not. I think everyone else in the whole world gets them except for us. So by pretending to be from somewhere else you get cheaper tickets.

Not that this can last. As more and more people find out about it. Its already an open secret if you talk to Eurostar UK people.

Tonight's lesson in train-fu is hereby ended, Glasshopper!

[identity profile] bellinghman.livejournal.com 2007-01-07 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
'tlain-fu'?

One of the interesting things about attempting to learn Japanese is that distinction, or lack of it, between the 'r' and 'l'. When I'm expecting to hear the 'r'. I hear it, but if I concentrate, sometimes the native speaker seems to produce the 'l' sound instead. It seems to be a personal accent type of thing, a little like (but milder than) an English speaker having a lisp.

[identity profile] bellinghman.livejournal.com 2007-01-07 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
And hmm, at that price, I'd be very happily popping up to Edinburgh all the time. Now, we just need someone with a spare room who's willing to put us up for a night or two.