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bellinghman ([personal profile] bellinghman) wrote2005-10-19 10:30 am

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A kilometre is not a unit of area.

C'mon guys, do you mean 60 square kilometres, 60 kilometres square, 60 kilometres radius, or what? Unfortunately, being somewhat literalist, my mental image involves the area being covered by a Peano curve approximation using a strip the width of a road and 60 kilometres long. My mental abilities won't tell me how much area that actually is.

[identity profile] songster.livejournal.com 2005-10-19 09:33 am (UTC)(link)
Er, surely it'd be (of the order of) 60km times the width of a road (say 20m)? That comes to 1.2 km^2.

[identity profile] bellinghman.livejournal.com 2005-10-19 10:03 am (UTC)(link)
Ah. Thanks.

(My mathematical abilities were somewhat strained yesterday by attempting to calculate the translation vector of the corner of a rectangle undergoing rotation round its centre point. And I was not sure how much to allow for the width of a road.)

[identity profile] songster.livejournal.com 2005-10-19 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't thank me - I'm bullshitting ;-)

I just thought it's a bit bizarre to use your road to approximate a Peano curve, when the whole point of a Peano curve is that it uses a zero-thickness line.

Best way to area-fill with a road is just to lay it out boustrophedonically across a square, at which point the curved segments at the edges become negligible in comparison to the straight segments going across.

I have no idea if this would apply to a Peano-approximation (which is almost all corners and infinitesimally short straight segments), or even if it's meaningful to postulate a Peano-approximate road.
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[personal profile] vatine 2005-10-19 10:01 am (UTC)(link)
Heh, based on the "based on a coverage area of" and "a handful to cover the UK", I'd expect it to be an area approximating that of a square, 60 km to a side.
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[personal profile] timill 2005-10-19 10:01 am (UTC)(link)
Having read the article, I'd guess that they mean a circle 60 km in diameter.

[identity profile] bellinghman.livejournal.com 2005-10-19 10:05 am (UTC)(link)
Possibly. Or radius, as per one of my guesses. A 60 km radius circle from a high balloon sounds eminently believable to me. The problem is there's a factor of 4 difference between the radius and diameter areas.